Frequently Asked Questions:
Frog Rescue

Because frogs are commonly seen wildlife, there is a misconception that they have been the subject of rescue and care for many decades and lots of people everywhere know how to do this. Not at all true. As a group, they have been ignored until very recently when it became obvious that they are being wiped off the face of the earth. Now there is a sudden awareness and concern for them and the community wants them to be saved - but there are still very few people out there who have gained experience in this new field. We started soliciting frogs from the public back in August 1998 - long before rehab became a household word!

The answers to the questions below are meant to describe the situation here in far north Queensland (FNQ) but also have a lot of relevance to the situation around Australia and elsewhere in the world.

Why did you start a frog hospital?
Why are amphibians so different from other wildlife which gets rescued?
Why are they diseased so often?
Can't someone just look after injured frogs and not sick ones?

Sometimes when you have run out of money for your rescue activity, I notice your website says not to bring FNQ frogs to rescue groups but to vets only. Why do you say that?

Does that mean that the public should not pick up frogs to get them help?

I've called several vets to help this frog and they all said no. How come more veterinarians don't treat them?
Zoos handle animals - can I just bring the frog to a zoo?
Can I get help for my frog from a frog researcher?
You seem to have a lot of disease problems there in tropical Australia. Is it like that anywhere else in the world?
I'm not in tropical Queensland or not in Australia - how do I find someone to help me with my sick or injured frog?
How can I learn more about rescuing and rehabilitating amphibians?
What has changed for frog rehab since you first started the practice?

 

Why did you start a frog hospital?

I first became involved with frog conservation in Feb. 1994 while living in Sydney. I moved to FNQ when my health became problematic in March 1996 and I was looking for a way I could contribute to frog knowledge from home. There were two frog issues I felt needed to be addressed. The first was to know when the disease chytrid fungus arrived in the area. The second much bigger issue was that it had been demonstrated time and again that no species of amphibian can be considered secure - that the arrival of a disease could wipe out a species in a matter of months. Therefore, all amphibians should be viewed as vulnerable regardless of their breeding rates or current status, and that factors which could contribute to their loss needed to be understood and fixable. The notion that an endangered individual could be lost to a broken leg, an attack by another animal or a simple infection was not acceptable. Somebody had to start learning rescue and rehabilitation techniques so that frogs could be saved from threats and not be allowed to simply disappear into extinction. I already had captive husbandry experience with a variety of species so expanding this into rehab was the next logical step. I started taking in injured frogs from the neighbourhood and it very rapidly mushroomed from there. Because frogs needed help and nobody else regionally was doing this, the demands for my services grew fast and a non-profit group was established to attract the resources I, as a pensioner, did not have.

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Why are amphibians so different from other wildlife which gets rescued?

It is a fact that the entire concept of rescuing and rehabilitating amphibians is still new and very few people have ventured into it at all, even overseas. Our Curator was ridiculed by other frog conservationists when she first created our setup for receiving frogs from the public 11 years ago. Because this group of animals generally produces large clutches of eggs which can number in the thousands per clutch, they are seen as plentiful compared with other animals which only reproduce in very small numbers. The effort and money needed to save one frog when it comes from a clutch of 1,500 has often been viewed as a waste of limited rescue resources, even by those concerned about frogs!

The biology on these animals is also very different and allows them to be affected by more problems. Their skin is porous and can absorb pollutants instantly; they have no protective rib cage like other animals so their internal organs are not well protected from trauma. They have limited ways of expressing clinical symptoms so their conditions are more cryptic and take more experience over time to uncover. The last issue of course is that they haven't been the subject of decades of close contact by a wide variety of people so very little information is available about their husbandry, reaction to environmental changes, etc. They are an animal that seems to be more affected by disease in the past couple decades than any other animal.

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Why are they diseased so often?

Frog's porous skin allows them to absorb what's in their environment like a sponge. They can be easily affected by pollutants but also by changes in their ecosystem such as drought, radical temperature extremes, loss of canopy cover, changes in the abundance of parasites in the environment, reduction of food abundance or quality. This is why they have earned the name "environmental indicator". However, disease has been a recent phenomenon worldwide. Based on our 11 years experience with amphibian health issues here in tropical north Queensland, it is our belief that the problem with frogs worldwide is that their immune systems are being compromised by something, making them more susceptible to whatever disease problem happens to be in their area. In FNQ, we have identified one species in particular which is suffering immune deficiency more than any other and that is the White-lipped tree frog, Litoria infrafrenata. This is the first of several uncataloged conditions which we first pinpointed back in 1999.

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Can't someone just look after injured frogs and not sick ones?

In this region, there are so many disease issues that it is extremely rare for a frog to come in with only an injury. For example, since July 2002 when the "respiratory/nervous system" condition outbreak started, we have had more than 1,500 individual frogs turned in. Of that number, only two of them were injured without any other health problems. Every other injured frog we have seen has had health problems and parasites and most of their injuries were actually caused by the frog being sick in the first place. An additional factor is that trauma on a frog can trigger health issues so a frog that has been injured is likely to pick up other problems that might be active in the area. It is advisable to always handle injured frogs with the same procedures as for those that are ill and that is with disposable gloves, properly disinfected enclosures and components, one frog per enclosure/tank and isolation from other animals in care.

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Sometimes when you have run out of money for your rescue activity, I notice your website says not to bring FNQ frogs to rescue groups but to vets only. Why do you say that?

One of our concerns is the protection of wildlife carers in FNQ which seems to be a frog disease "hot spot". Here in Queensland, we had a situation several years ago where two bat carers became sick and died. It turns out that the bats they were looking after were carrying a virus called Lyssavirus. Nobody told them this could happen and the relevant authorities probably didn't even anticipate that such a thing could happen. Since then, there have been multiple incidents in Queensland where professionals employed to work with horses have died from another virus, Hendra virus. Diseases are getting around and very little work has been done to screen wildlife - it tends to be AFTER a tragedy has struck that a problem gets any attention.

Wildlife carers devote their time and own money to looking after animals in distress and are often the first people who have contact with potentially diseased animals - even before vets. If you can't find help for an amphibian in distress, most local wildlife rescue volunteers will take your frog even if they haven't had much experience with them. This dedication is a fantastic attribute but it should not be taken advantage of. In our opinion, there is insufficient communication between the biosecurity community and carers and this leaves carers in a vulnerable position. We have been raising this in submissions to the government for many years but it will cost substantial funding to address so it keeps getting pushed to the back burner. Some not-very-friendly parasites have been in frogs for a long time but, after cyclone Larry, a wider range of fungi and especially bacteria were found on frogs. Since the heavy wet season of 2007/08, some very nasty bacteria have been turning up on frogs including Steptococcus, Clostridium, Serratia and Pseudomonas. Based on these results from government labs, we recommend a conservative approach by suggesting that local carers should NOT get involved with caring for these animals UNLESS they have proper handling and disinfection procedures in place and have received training from us in how to recognise the very cryptic clinical symptoms associated with some of these conditions.

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Does that mean that the public should not pick up frogs to get them help?

We have been recommending to everyone to use gloves or a plastic bag over your hand to handle any frogs or toads, even if you think they look pretty good. Not all of them will have something nasty on their skin but you won't be able to tell which ones so we suggest they all be handled conservatively. It is simply a matter of not touching them with your bare skin. We have been including this statement in nearly all our press releases for the past three years and the media keeps taking that message out of the stories. We have notices in all the relevant pages in this site and we tell folks this on the phone. But yet, we have had folks bring in sick frogs and report that their kids have been playing with them in the meantime (not good for the stressed out sick frog either!). Wearing something on your hands is a simple precaution to prevent any undesirable situations! We also recommend that as soon as a frog is found that isn't normal, it should be directed to someone right away - don't try to hold on it yourself for a few days to see what happens.

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I've called several vets to help this frog and they all said no. How come more veterinarians don't treat them?

This is not a simple issue and might have different explanations in different areas. Part of the answer concerns the pet trade. Commercialism tends to be way ahead of the husbandry and care areas - somebody will sell it even if nobody knows how to look after it. There is a substantial lag time after an animal becomes commercially available before information starts to flow about proper care and how to fix things that go wrong. The pet trade in frogs exists but it is on a small scale so there are not a lot of customers banging on clinic doors demanding services for their pets.

Finances figure into it as well. You wouldn't think twice about spending a few hundred dollars on vet care for the bird you paid $500 for (and another $1,000 for its cage and supplies) but you might not want to spend a few hundred dollars on the frog you paid $30 for or one which you found in your yard. Likewise, if a vet clinic only gets one or two calls a year about amphibians, they might not want to invest in the time and training it will take to come up to speed with the range of amphibian health problems.

Another factor is where would an interested vet get training in frog husbandry and medical care? This is not taught in vet school and there is very little information floating around to grab on to. Again using the comparison to birds, there are thousands of aviculturists in many countries who have been keeping a huge range of species for decades. Most are members of organisations and all of these have newsletters and magazines to share information plus commercial magazines and how-to books. The bird trade and supplies is worth at least a couple billion dollars a year so information and shared experience is everywhere. And yet, not all vets have added birds to their repetoire despite the size of the market. Large scale keeping and knowledge sharing has hardly even begun for amphibians so there is very little information available. We often receive emails from visitors to our website who comment that ours is the only site they could find anywhere with information on whatever-it-is health problem they were researching.

The next factor is the changing environment and the speed with which new, uncataloged, undescribed problems are appearing in amphibians. There are no simple tests for many of these problems so once the sick frog is sitting in front of the interested vet, what kinds of diagnostics are going to be available to them? Let's use the example of the only officially recognised amphibian disease problem in Australia - chytrid fungus. If you found a vet to look at your frog which might have chytrid fungus and you want the frog to be tested for it, there are two testing methods available for chytrid, both of which cost over $200 and might not actually provide an accurate result. If your frog has one of the new conditions we have discovered here in FNQ like the "respiratory/nervous system" condition (for example), it is an environmental toxin and there is no test at all (we identify it by its clinical presentation). So even an interested vet might be frustrated by the lack of tools available to them to help you. To avoid such frustration, it is easier not to include amphibians in their clinic.

Lastly, vet clinics focus on emergency care and routine procedures. An amphibian with a couple health problems could easily need over 3 months of care to restore healthy condition and weight. This is a long time in a vet practice and if the animal is rescued wildlife, who is going to be covering its care costs? These can really start to add up once staff time is required for weeks on end plus maintaining a constant supply of the live food that frogs eat.

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Zoos handle animals - can I just bring the frog there?

It depends on the regulatory environment zoos operate under in your area and whether they are operating a quarantine setup. Here in Queensland, zoos do not have default permission to engage in rehabilitation. There are specific permits they must have in place (as well as the ability to quarantine any rescued wildlife). A zoo which has amphibians on display will have the right permits but, because they have healthy amphibians in their collection, they might not want to risk having diseased amphibians coming in the door.

Zoos overall may assist the odd unfortunate animal but they are not in the business of spending money on rehabbing small animals when there are organisations to do this. However, some very large zoos like Taronga and Sea World have dedicated care facilities for specific animal types that cannot be readily assisted by the public such as sea turtles, fairy penguins, seals, etc. But when it comes to amphibians, keepers are not likely to be trained in amphibian health issues (especially the new conditions) unless they have a personal interest and search for information. We have been contacted by zoos that have frogs on exhibit to provide diagnosis and treatment information for problems that have turned up in their display animals. Even if a zoo doesn't want to engage in rehab, they still might know where you can go for help so they are certainly worth a phone call to enquire.

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Can I get help for my frog from a frog researcher?

It depends on the individual researcher. These are very busy people trying desperately to catch up to the causes of rapid global decline in frogs. They have strict budgets for their projects and limited spare time so they might not be able to cope with the distraction and resource drain of fixing up frogs for return to the wild and they certainly won't want to treat pet frogs (unless this is something they are doing to raise a little more money for their studies).

The focus of a frog researcher is to be successful on their research projects and they need sick frogs for study in the lab. These frogs are not returned to the wild. While no-one who tries to help a distressed frog wants to see it put down, it is an important part of learning more about the diseases that are popping up all around the planet. If you have a really sick frog and there is a frog researcher in your area, you might want to consider allowing the frog to be used for scientific purposes.

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You seem to have a lot of disease problems there in tropical Australia. Is it like that anywhere else in the world?

While there are researchers in many parts of the world working on various projects to do with chytrid fungus, comparitively little work is taking place on other amphibian health problems so it is probably true to say that nobody knows the full scope of what is happening to amphibians around the world. We do know that several viruses in the ranavirus/iridovirus group are causing species declines in the USA and that there is also a serious problem there with parasites (the malformed frogs issue first discovered in Minnesota). In the UK, there was a ranavirus problem several years ago followed by an outbreak of Aeromonas ("Red leg"). It is quite likely that many more disease problems exist but too few people are actually looking for them. But even if someone finds evidence of a new problem to be investigated, the funding has to come from somewhere for a full investigation and that's where fierce competition enters the scene! Unfortunately, a lot of other environmental problems are considered far more important than frogs!

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I'm not in tropical Queensland / not in Australia - how do I find someone to help me with my sick or injured frog?

The first place to try is to contact a couple wildlife rescue organisations in your area to see if they have any experienced carers for amphibians or if they can at least tell you which vets they use and then contact those vets to see if they will help you with a frog or toad. You can also try the nearest office of a Fish and Wildlife Service or environment department - these would be the regulatory authorities who would be providing licences to people to operate as rescuers of wildlife. They might have someone on their database who specialises in amphibians. Another option is to check with the nearest university to see if they have a vet school. There might be an interested teacher or student there who has kept amphibians and is interested in learning more about them. There are also pet keepers' groups and discussion forums on the net (start with yahoo groups) which have some very experienced keepers who have learned something about issues that have come up in their own animals. These groups are often by species so there will be a Phyllomedusa keeper's group or a Dendrobates group for example. Visit the websites of Herpdigest, Kingsnake.com, www.frogs.org and Melissa Kaplan's Herp Care collection for more links.

In Australia, there is www.frogs.org.au - follow the links for Community and then select Health and Disease. At the top of the topics list is a list of vets that members have used. The forum is moderated by experienced frog keepers from the Amphibian Research Centre, the FATS Group in Sydney, and ourselves. We also do long-distance diagnosis and have assisted vets, zoos, keepers and rehabbers around Australia and overseas. See the symptoms of a sick frog page for a description of the background and photos we need.

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How can I learn about rescuing and rehabilitating amphibians?

The first step to take is to gain keeping experience with a variety of species in your area. The only way to know what is wrong with a frog/toad is to know what is NORMAL for a frog/toad. Learn the animal's behaviour patterns, normal fluctuations in skin colouring, variations in appearance for each species, normal growth rates and seasonal habits, etc. If you can successfully keep a variety of species healthy for a period of time (say a couple years), then you are ready to find someone to teach you rehab techniques and types of disease problems that might be active in your area. The key to identifying most of the conditions we have is to pay attention to fine details such as a change in the type of moisture on the skin; blotches on the toes; a change in posture, etc.

It depends on where you are but it is likely you will need to find an individual who has done this themselves to teach you. We learned by consulting every relevant professional we could to gain their pieces of information about one facet of a problem and put all their pieces together over time with our own observations. We chased vets for technique and drug information and labs for cultures and pathology results. You will need a "friendly" interested vet to get medications from and various tests such as impression smears, x-rays, etc. Try the Association of Amphibian and Reptilian Vets in the USA for the closest member to your area. You'll also need some financing from somewhere to cover lab involvement and treatment costs - a diagnostic from a vet lab can run a couple of hundred dollars. If you are dealing specifically with a wild caught amphibian (not pets), then the government should have testing labs that will do tests for free. In the USA, one of the leading amphibian labs is the National Wildlife Health Centre in Madison, Wisconsin.

There are very few books available on amphibian medicine - an essential one to get is "Amphibian Medicine and Amphibian Husbandry" by Wright and Whittaker. It is not cheap at around $150 or $175 USD but far cheaper than the Heatwole series which will run you about $1,000 for the seven volumes written thus far.

There is an amphibian conservation course that has been developed in the UK but we don't know if it includes rehab techniques. There is also the Pautuxet Wildlife Research Centre in Maryland which may or may not include amphibians. We have developed our own amphibian rehab course which you would need to travel to Cairns to take. Instruction is personalized, runs five hours a day and takes between two to four days depending on your previous knowledge. Contact us to ask for more information if you are planning any travel here.

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What has changed for frog rehab since you first started doing the practice?

The pursuit of new environmental problems is an extremely difficult area for a non-profit to work in. We are at the front line of receiving animals with unidentified conditions, cataloguing those conditions while trying to ensure our own safety, and proving to a largely skeptical government and academic community that these problems are genuine and need proper investigation. After 11 years, only the number of new problems to catalog has changed (they've increased). None of the new problems we described has been isolated or characterised and our acquired knowledge is still not recognised on an official level - despite the awards our Curator has received for her work in amphibian health. It seems the more we learn and the more we try to share, the more criticism we cop, especialy from some academics.

On the other hand, we have proven to the community at large that frogs can be recovered, they deserve to be assisted and that there can be extremely useful environmental information available through the practice of rescue and rehab. We have done presentations promoting the concept of rehabilitation to national frog conferences and carers conferences (as well as presentations to government meetings and disease groups) but uptake is still very slow. Our extensive experience is still relied upon by the FNQ community but support in this difficult economy is extremely low and far more income is needed to keep up with the demands of large numbers of sick frogs but also to expand our outreach capabilities.

 

Last edited: August 16th, 2009